Vote Yes on 1

Question 1 on Maine´s November 3rd election ballot will read: People´s Veto: “Do you want to reject the new law that lets same-sex couples marry and allows individuals and religious groups to refuse to perform these marriages?”

Many people are voting “Yes on 1” in Maine tomorrow, for many different reasons. Some because they think it’s wrong for their personal reasons, for others because they are rude and judgmental people, and then there is me and others like me who simply have no personal agenda but simply trusting the Bible as the inspired Word of God.

My loyalty lies first with God, even before my loyalty as a wife, mother, daughter, sister, friend, and as an American. Scripture tells us to love God first and love our neighbors as ourselves second.

As Christians, we are not to condone or ignore sin and this includes homosexuality and the altering of marriage which was created by God to be between man and woman (Genesis 2:21-24; Matthew 19:4-6). Christians should stand firmly against the idea of same-sex marriage for the simple fact that the Bible expresses homosexuality as sin.

We are given a free will to choose our will or God’s will. Be careful not to quote scripture out of context in an attempt to condone what the Bible says is a sin. I had sex with my husband before we married. God commands us in His Word not to fornicate and, as Christians, we should have heeded His instruction. Instead we chose to put Him second to our sexual relationship. We knew it was sin and have asked God to forgive us and we aren’t to try and justify it.

Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.

If you don’t agree with the Word, than this does not apply to you. As for me, my convictions are rooted in the Word so for me to vote “No on 1” would express my loyalty lies somewhere other than with God.

Christians need also to remember that we are to share the love of God and the forgiveness of sins that is available to all, including homosexuals, through Jesus Christ. We are to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) and contend for truth with “gentleness and respect” (1 Peter 3:15).

As Christians, when we make a stand for truth and the result is personal attacks, insults, and persecution, we should remember the words of Jesus: “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you” (John 15:18-19).

Please, vote yes on 1.

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Scripture in Context Edited

This blog post is being written in hopes to put scriptures being used in these two tv clips into context.  It is clear that people take issue with the Bible and that ABC and NBC have their own agenda in what message is being sent through their show, I just wish they would at least use the scriptures in context.

Contrary to what the clip from NBC’s West Wing is suggesting, slavery is not commended in the Bible, in fact it is recognized realistically in respect to the economic need where people sold themselves into slavery to pay off a debt (Ephesians 6:5-7) and the evil in racial discrimination such as the oppression of the Israelites by the Egyptians (Exodus 1:8-14).  The Bible also provides tools for the slave and master in how to treat one another (1 Peter 2:18-25; Colossians 3:22-25; Colossians 4:1-6) and why (Ephesians 6:8-9), in becoming free (1 Corinthians 7:20-22; Jeremiah 34:8-22) and finally shows us that the laws are for those who break the laws (1 Timothy 1:8-11 references slave traders amongst others in which the law is for).

The Sabbath day of rest, holy to the Lord, was commanded to be observed in Exodus 31:12-18 as a sign between us and God for generations.  We see more in depth that Jesus is the rest that the Sabbath is set aside for in Matthew 11:25-30.  It is talked about in Hebrews 4:1-13 and speaks of how God set aside a day for the disobedient, people who were not resting at all (again, a law made for the lawbreakers 1 Timothy 1:8-11).  A day was set again so that the example of the disobedient (those who were not setting aside time to rest in Christ) would not cause others to stumble and do the same.  This day is set aside for those who are not already resting in Christ.

Unclean foods of the Bible have been proven with modern science over the years that they are not healthy for our bodies nor for our emotional, spiritual and mental health.  Many foods can effect us in negative ways and thus are not healthy for us.  They were declared unclean because there is an ideal diet in mind for us as we are caring for the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).  Pigs eat slop and therefore are unclean and absolutely non-beneficial to our health.  With that said, ceremonial practices in our diets are still equally important today in reference to being at our best as well as moral principles in doing what is pleasing in God’s sight.  With each we still stumble but this does not mean that eating pig meat is right just as well as murdering someone.

The president’s final attempt in this clip to invalidate “Dr. Jenna Jacob’s” appeal to Scripture as an authority on the moral status of homosexuality involves the command against seeding “different crops side by side” and sewing garments together “from two different threads.” Though done well to reach many on an emotional level with his argument in the role played by Martin Sheen, he once again has taken his slight knowledge of what is in the texts of the Bible to spread this deceptive ignorance of what the scriptures say.

The reference made of planting two kinds of seed is either from the passage Deuteronomy 22:9 or Leviticus 19:19. While there is reference to blessings and consequences in Deuteronomy 28 (which also includes wearing clothes of wool and linen woven together in Deuteronomy22:11 as well as several other commands in the previous and following chapters as well as specific laws throughout that were directed to be put to death), nowhere does it speak of man stoning or setting ablaze those who disobey these specific laws.

While at first, it may appear that the president portrayed on The West Wing is a benevolent learned man and the doctor is a narrow-minded blockhead (rather she was prideful and arrogant in answering the president’s question in the manner that she did and could easily be compared to a pharisee), but I hope that what I’ve shared has portrayed a more objective and in context view of what the scriptures say and have well expressed that the statements made by this character were flawed.


:39 (start of scene) 1:31 (start of quoted text)

Below is the conversation between Callie and her father, I’ve put the scripture references below it.

Dad: Leviticus: Thou shalt not lie with a man as one lies with a female. It is an abomination.

Callie: Oh don’t do that daddy, don’t quote the bible at me.

Dad: The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and their sin is exceedingly grave

Callie: Jesus: A new commandment that I give unto you. That you love one another.

Dad: Romans: But we know that

Callie: Jesus: He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone.

Dad: So you admit it is a sin

Callie: Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy.
Jesus: Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.
Jesus: Blessed are those who have been persecuted for righteousness sake.
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus is my savior daddy. not you.
And Jesus would be ashamed of you for judging me.
He would be ashamed of you for turning your back on me.
He would be ashamed.

Jesus is my savior, Daddy. Not you. And Jesus would be ashamed of you for judging me. He would be ashamed of you for turning your back on me! He would be ashamed!

“Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” Leviticus 18:22

“And the LORD said, “The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave. I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will knowGenesis 18:20-21

“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.” John 13:34

I am unsure of the father’s Roman’s reference.

“But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” John 8:7

“Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God… Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:7-8 & 10

Before I get started in putting these particular passages in context I want to note that I do not agree with how the father in this clip presented himself to his daughter nor his condemnation.  He in no way displayed the same love that Christ has bestowed on all of us, nor did he follow Biblical principles in approaching his daughter.

With that said, it is dangerous to hold on to these scriptures in the context that each character was using them.  Leviticus 18:22 has become the scripture that stirs up hatred for God’s Word and His people because of how it’s been presented.  We would do well to recognize that the God of the Bible does not condemn homosexuality in an tyrannical or power hungry way. Rather, He carefully defines the borders for sexual intimacy in this particular passage.

The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were wicked and had no reverence for God.  Their sins included but was not exclusively homosexuality.  In Genesis 18:20-33, Abraham spoke with the Lord regarding their destruction.  He asked Him what if He found fifty righteous within the city.  The Lord said that if he found fifty righteous that He would not destroy it.  Abraham then asked of forty, twenty, down to ten righteous being found and the Lord agreed that if he found ten righteous that He would not destroy it.

The cities were destroyed because  they were completely unrepentant for their sins of adultery, lies, arrogance, gluttonous attitudes, and selfishness – without care for those in need.  They were haughty and shameless.  We see this in other passages like Ezekiel 16:48-50, Isaiah 3:9, Jeremiah 23:14, and Luke 17:28-29.  Jesus said in Mark 6:11-12 that some cities were more condemnable because of their response to His disciples even under greater grace than before.

This has been yet another scripture taken by the arrogant and hatefully thrown into the faces of those who are living in sin.  One would have to question the motive of such an approach.  The Bible is perfect and all scripture is God-breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16).  Since that is so, there is a Biblical manner to do these things.

The reference in John 13 that was used regarding the new command to love one another is a perfect example of this.  If we read on from verse 34 to 35, we read“By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Our actions are to express that we are Christ’s disciples.  If we are arrogant or hateful, all people will see is that we are judgmental – and it is because we were behaving as such.  The father in this clip was in fact judgmental, having already decided that her sin was greater than his own.

“For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.” Romans 2:13

“Callie,” continuing to quote scriptures to her father regarding his actions then goes on to John 8:7 which is regarding teachers of the law and the pharisees who brought woman out to be stoned for her adultery.  Jesus said to them that the one without sin is to cast the first stone and all walked away.  Jesus’ words to the woman were “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”and she replied “No one, sir,” “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.” (John 8:10-11)  Though Jesus forgave the adulteress, He at no point approved of her actions.  In fact he stated “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

We are to be merciful, we are to be pure in heart, and we are to know that God is ever working on us despite the persecution we receive for our love for the Lord in all of our failings.  These scriptures in no way condone the approach of the father against her daughter, nor do they support a life of sin.   

We must remember to commit ourselves to know the truth so that when such counterfeits loom on the horizon, we recognize them instantaneously. At worst, even when we do not have an immediate answer, we should be aware that answers exist. At best, we should be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks us to give the reason for the hope that we have — and to do this with gentleness and respect.

The homosexual topic is a touchy subject for most to say the least.  It is sin.  BUT it should not interfere with our adoration, appreciation, and love for that person.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” Matthew 5:43-48

The Bible calls us to do this with everyone.  To love and speak in love, not to the perfect and sinless alone but to everyone – which we ought to be thankful for otherwise we would not be loved.  As I’ve said before in other blogs, we can love a person without loving their choices – God loves us but hates our sin… this includes lies, murders, hatefulness, thievery, etc.  His hate for sin does not take away from His love for His children and thankfully so because if it did then he would not have come for us.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation. Romans 5:6-11

Jesus came to fulfill the law, not do away with it; as well as to be the living example of God’s righteousness. We have been saved through grace, but this does not do away with our responsibility to continue to follow His law.

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:17-19

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! Romans 6:15

Freedom of Speech

Freedom to speak out and freedom to express is for all Americans – even those who do not approve of homosexuality.

Posts on this Boycott:

Full Coverage for Sex-Change Procedures?

The Boycott of McDonald’s

It’s a Moral Issue… (my response to this comment from “The Boycott of McDonald’s”)

Just Because God Says So… (my response to this comment from “It’s a Moral Issue”)

Boycotting McDonald’s (my response to this comment from “Just Because God Says So…”)

Dishonorable Approbation (my response to this comment below)

Freedom of Speech (my response to this comment below)

AFA ends boycott: McDonald’s agrees to changes (final post regarding the boycott)

Dishonorable Approbation

The Word expresses contempt of even the approbation of those in sin (of all sin).

“being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.Romans 1:18-32.

Posts on this Boycott:

Full Coverage for Sex-Change Procedures?

The Boycott of McDonald’s

It’s a Moral Issue… (my response to this comment from “The Boycott of McDonald’s”)

Just Because God Says So… (my response to this comment from “It’s a Moral Issue”)

Boycotting McDonald’s (my response to this comment from “Just Because God Says So…”)

Dishonorable Approbation (my response to this comment below)

Freedom of Speech (my response to this comment below)

AFA ends boycott: McDonald’s agrees to changes (final post regarding the boycott)

Boycotting McDonalds

Sorry it’s taken me so long to reply to this comment, but here it is. 🙂

McDonald’s is not the government, it is a restaurant.  As I’ve said previously, it is the prerogative of McDonald’s (as well as every other business out there) to fund what it desires.  Just as it is my own prerogative to fund what I desire (or in this case, do not wish to desire).  The boycott was to express to them what a group of us did not desire to fund.  The boycott was not to punish the establishment for “treating gay men and women as legal equals.”  In fact it was expressed, in this post, what the boycott was about.  Which was not about hiring homosexuals, homosexuals eating at McDonald’s, nor how homosexual employees are treated.  It was about remaining neutral in the culture wars.  This has nothing to do with legal equality.

Posts on this Boycott:

Full Coverage for Sex-Change Procedures?

The Boycott of McDonald’s

It’s a Moral Issue… (my response to this comment from “The Boycott of McDonald’s”)

Just Because God Says So… (my response to this comment from “It’s a Moral Issue”)

Boycotting McDonald’s (my response to this comment from “Just Because God Says So…”)

Dishonorable Approbation (my response to this comment below)

Freedom of Speech (my response to this comment below)

AFA ends boycott: McDonald’s agrees to changes (final post regarding the boycott)

AFA ends boycott: McDonald’s agrees to changes

Donald E.Wildmon: Founder and Chairman

Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire e-mail list of family and friends.

AFA ends boycott: McDonald’s agrees to changes

October 9, 2008

Great news! Because of AFA supporters like you, McDonald’s has told AFA they will remain neutral in the culture war regarding homosexual marriage. AFA is ending the boycott of McDonald’s. As you know, AFA called for the boycott in May after McDonald’s joined the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC).

McDonald’s said McDonald’s Vice President Richard Ellis has resigned his position on the board of NGLCC and that his seat on the board will not be replaced. McDonald’s also said that the company has no plans to renew their membership in NGLCC when it expires in December.

In an e-mail to McDonald’s franchised owners the company said, “It is our policy to not be involved in political and social issues. McDonald’s remains neutral on same sex marriage or any ‘homosexual agenda’ as defined by the American Family Association.”

We appreciate the decision by McDonald’s to no longer support political activity by homosexual activist organizations. You might want to thank your local McDonald’s manager.

Thank you for caring enough to get involved. If you feel our efforts are worthy of support, would you consider making a small tax-deductible contribution to help us continue?

Sincerely,
Donald E. Wildmon,
Founder and Chairman
American Family Association
Donate with confidence to AFA  
(gifts are tax-deductible)

Posts on this Boycott:

Full Coverage for Sex-Change Procedures?

The Boycott of McDonald’s

It’s a Moral Issue… (my response to this comment from “The Boycott of McDonald’s”)

Just Because God Says So… (my response to this comment from “It’s a Moral Issue”)

Boycotting McDonald’s (my response to this comment from “Just Because God Says So…”)

Dishonorable Approbation (my response to this comment below)

Freedom of Speech (my response to this comment below)

AFA ends boycott: McDonald’s agrees to changes (final post regarding the boycott)

Just Because God Says So…

Thanks for the response to my last post “It’s a Moral Issue…“.  I hope with this post, I’ve addressed each point as clearly as possible.  I’ve included scriptures (since my opinion really doesn’t matter… the Word of God is the only true wisdom).

Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil. This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones. Proverbs 3:7-8

“Just because God says so is insufficient reason to view another group of individuals as unequal.”

I do not view any person as unequal.  Disagreeing with a lifestyle choice does not negate the value of that person. In John 8, a woman was caught in her adultery.  She was threatened to be stoned, but Jesus pointed out the sins of those who stood in condemnation.  None were able to throw stones, knowing they themselves were full of their own sin.  Jesus did not condemn her either, even being sinless.  So we see, we are not to condemn those who are sinful as we are (the time for judgment on all of us will come in due time) but Jesus did not tell her to continue in her sin.  He told her to “go and sin no more” (John 8:11).  He did not enable, nor allow her to continue in her sinful behavior – the behavior was still a sin and unacceptable.

“…if you do things only because God says so, how do you fault others who do what their God tells them to do – say, terrorists?”

You shall fear the LORD your God and serve Him, and shall take oaths in His name. You shall not go after other gods, the gods of the peoples who are all around you… Deuteronomy 6:13-14 (emphasis mine)

Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’” Matthew 4:10 (emphasis mine)

The mere worship of other gods is in direct disobedience to God.  The Father is the only true God.

Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[a] And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.  I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do.  And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. John 17:1-5 (emphasis mine)

Terrorism is evil because it goes against direct commands that God has given throughout His Word.  The terrorists reject God and Christ whom He sent and are unrepentant of the evil they commit.

But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk.  And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts. Revelation 9:20-21 (emphasis mine)

“God also says it’s wrong to eat shellfish. Do you eat shellfish? Do you support boycotts of Long John Silvers, on the grounds that their sales are immoral and enable an immoral lifestyle?

‘These you may eat of all that are in the water: whatever in the water has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers—that you may eat.  But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you.  They shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination.  Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales—that shall be an abomination to you. Leviticus 11:9-12

I will admit that I love lobster… I’ve eaten my fair share of them also.  Being from Maine hasn’t helped (nor has my mother’s love for them either).    On that note, it was expressed in the New Testament the following:

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.  For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 1 Timothy 4:1-5

I certainly do not look to myself as a compass for good and right.  I reek of sin just like the next man/woman and I assure you that their are plenty of sins I’m not out boycotting.  BUT, in regards to shellfish, God forbade them in Leviticus.  Since then we’ve learned that many shellfish feed on waste and accumulate heavy metals and/or toxins in their tissues.  From the passage it is understandable that it was a health issue rather than a moral issue (seeing as 1 Timothy tells us that all creatures are good and that we are not to refuse any as food).  I have actually spoken to many, many a people about the health risks of eating such insects of the sea. On the off chance that I hadn’t, this would not cancel out what God has spoken out against.  God is teaching and changing me, also.

“to the extent that the New supercedes the Old Testament, how does Jesus’ first commandment – that humanity loves each other – reflect, incorporate, or fail to incorporate proscriptions on lifestyles?”

The New Testament does not supercede the Old.  Jesus came to fulfill the law, not do away with it; as well as to be the living example of God’s righteousness.  We have been saved through grace, but this does not do away with our responsibility to continue to follow His law.

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.  Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17-19 (emphasis mine)

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.  John 14:12 (emphasis mine)

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! Romans 6:15 (emphasis mine)

I first wanted to point out that the first and great commandment is to “love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.” (Matthew 22:37-38) Then comes the second, which is to love your neighbor as yourself – without condition, as God loves. We can love a person without loving their choices – God loves us but hates sin… His hate for sin does not take away from His love for His children.  As cliché as it sounds… “love the sinner; hate the sin” fits perfectly in this explanation.

But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”  Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’  On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 22:34-40

In fact it is for the sinner that Christ came.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.  For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die.  But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.  Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.  For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.  And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation. Romans 5:6-11

“If you rely on God’s word as to what is right or wrong, you still have to indicate some objective form of reality, or prove why what God tells you to do is good. It’s Abraham’s problem. [God told him] to sacrifice his child (of course he stopped it at the last moment). You can argue that the ends (proving Abraham’s faith) justified the means (traumatizing his child), or you can argue that nothing God does is evil. But does that really sound right? It’s also Job’s problem. God – if you read the Bible literally – killed Job’s entire family, just to test him. Is that morally right?

First, let’s put in context these two scenarios.

Abraham, in Genesis 22, was commanded by God to sacrifice his one and only son as a burnt offering.  Abraham brought Isaac to the place God told him to and prepared the altar, bound his son and nearly slayed him at which point God called out for him to stop.  He then provided a ram for the sacrifice and Abraham offered it up as a burnt offering instead of his son.  Okay, there is a general idea of the occurrence that is addressed.  Now let’s go back a bit.

In Genesis 17, God came to the child-less Abram when he was 99 years old.  He changed his name and made a covenant with him.

“I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless. And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly.” “As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations.  No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations. I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.” … “As for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations. … Then God said to Abraham, “As for Sarai your wife, you shall not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name. And I will bless her and also give you a son by her; then I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall be from her.” Genesis 17:1-2; 4-9; 15-16 (emphasis mine)

Reading further we see that Abraham and Sarah were in wonder and disbelief at such a promise of a son in their old age:

Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his heart, “Shall a child be born to a man who is one hundred years old? And shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?” Genesis 17:17

Now Abraham and Sarah were old, well advanced in age; and Sarah had passed the age of childbearing. Genesis 18:11

If God had provided for them a son in such a miraculous way, wouldn’t it be logical to trust the covenant that was made between them (the unconditional promise of land to him and his descendants ~Genesis 15:9-21~ as well as the conditional pledge to be Abraham and his descendant’s God as long as they remain consecrated to Him ~Genesis 17:4, 9~).  God said it would be Abraham’s own son who would be his heir (Genesis 15:3).  Abraham trusted that God would make a way – believing that He was going to bring a lamb (as he stated to Isaac in Genesis 22:8).

As far as Isaac being traumatized, there is no indication in scripture that Isaac was in fear.  Confused perhaps, but as children of even poor parenting, children trust their parents.  Being a mother, I’ve seen first hand how much my own children trust and adore me even through all of my failures.

In reference to Job, satan attacked his character; he degraded him before God, suggesting that he had no reason to not trust God because God had kept him so well protected (essentially saying, how could Job be a righteous man if not ever experiencing tribulation, nothing to reveal to Job or to those around him of his faith and trust in God… nothing to cause Job to willingly do so).  He went as far to say that if God took what He had blessed Job with, that Job would curse Him to His face.  Under God’s permission, satan destroyed Job’s property, took his children’s lives (Job 1 – Job offered burnt offerings for each of his unrepentant children for the sins they were committing), brought sickness upon him, caused dissension among his friends, even Job’s wife encouraged him to curse God so as to be put out of his misery… but Job remained trustful of His Redeemer.

Was either scenario morally right?  The great and trusted thing about God is that He is unchanging.  Just because words change, cultures change, or we become immune to the evils around us, it doesn’t change the reality of what is happening.  If we don’t have the foundation of Truth, who then decides whether something is right or wrong in any given circumstance? This is where experiences, opinions, and ideas can cause major problems in determining morality.  Morality is righteousness and all that the word means (1 Corinthians 13:4-8; Colossians 3:12-17; Galatians 5:22-26).  Immorality (1 Corinthians 6:9; Galatians 5:19-21; Jude 1:8, 16-19) is all that is contrary to it.

The Bible has throughout time been used to justify (1) the death penalty (which many Christians now oppose); (2) slavery, both racial and punitive, and; (3) the confinement of women to the homes. Most of society now rejects, if not (1) and (3), at least (2). And yet the Bible spoke clearly that slavery was, in at least some cases, morally tolerable. Does the meaning of the Bible, and its relevance for our morality, shift over time? And if not, what do you make of those problems?

Slavery is viewed as an evil in our world today, but slavery itself is not evil.  Slavery began when one owed a debt, they became property of their masters.  God made it clear how masters were to treat their slaves.

Masters, give your bondservants what is just and fair, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven. Colossians 4:1

Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ; not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, with goodwill doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free.  And you, masters, do the same things to them, giving up threatening, knowing that your own Master also is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him. Ephesians 6:5-9

The evils committed against black men and women (and the Israelites by the Egyptians), was by the act of man.  This was not condoned by God as He commanded masters to be just and fair and treat them with respect and kindness.

As for the death penalty and the ‘confinement’ of women to the homes, I’d have to ask for elaboration on the understanding of what the Word says in regards to those.  The wording (and lack thereof) leaves me pondering the intended point and I’d prefer not to assume.

Is it right to enshrine a theological objection to a minority group in the laws of a pluralistic democracy? The answer there, from the First Amendment the Fourteenth, has to be an unequivocal “no.”

I don’t look down on homosexual men and women.  The assumption that I view myself as superior simply because I am against an action of a person, truly is a misconception.  I have and have had special people in my life who participate in such behaviors, as well as those who have lied, lusted, and cheated.  With that said, the 1st and 14th amendments are the very reason I have the freedom to not support such a corporation that is in direct support of what I’m not supportive of.  As I stated, it is certainly McDonald’s right and prerogative to do as they wish, but it is also my right and the rights of others who do not wish to participate in this particular funding to not do so and to speak out against it.

I hope I’ve addressed all the points that were made and that I’ve done so clearly.  If anyone would like to add onto what I’ve said, or if there are any more questions, please feel free to post!  I may not respond right away, but I will do my best to be clear and thorough in my responses!  God bless!

Posts on this Boycott:

1. Full Coverage for Sex-Change Procedures?

2. The Boycott of McDonald’s

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It’s a Moral Issue…

      (my response to

this

      comment from “The Boycott of McDonald’s”)
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Just Because God Says So…

      (my response to

this

      comment from “It’s a Moral Issue”)
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Boycotting McDonald’s

      (my response to

this

    comment from “Just Because God Says So…”)

3. Dishonorable Approbation (my response to this comment below)

4. Freedom of Speech (my response to this comment below)

5. AFA ends boycott: McDonald’s agrees to changes (final post regarding the boycott)